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Datnioides
     
This page contains Customer Comments and our Replies about Siamese Tiger Fish. Click here to go back to the previous page in this discussion.
 
 

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hello, my name is Stephanie, and although i am not a consumer (yet) from an online fish store, i was wondering if you could help me, since you are the ONLY people in the whole world who seem to know anything about the siamese tiger fish (Datnoides sp.).
 
i recently acquired three specimins (about 3-4 inches) that seemed healthy. i have been feeding them ghost shrimp and an occasional feeder guppy. they all have established territories in my 120 gal. tank, and are very active (or at least as active as they were upon receiving them a week ago).
 
one of the fish (and this morning another) seems to become a bit more withdrawn, and the dark colored stripe are blanching (it comes and goes, but is becoming more frequent). they still eat very well, and are not lethergic.
 
i have noticed that on seems to 'scratch' a bit on the driftwood, but it is not terribly obvious. they have been studied for any spots, lesions or bloating, and none can be found. other than the slightly antisocial behavior and the poor color, not much appears to be visibly wrong. is my fish sick???
 
what could it be and what could i do about it? (the fish are sharing a tank with 3 slightly smaller texas cichlids, a pleco, weather loach, and 3 skunk botia and a paddle tail newt. everyone in the tank is well behaved, and no fighting has been observed at all.)
 
any help you could offer would be greatly appreciated. thank you for the wonderful information you have provided on your website, it was very thorough.
 
Stephanie H.
McAllen TX
 
 
 
Reply. Hello Stephanie. I enjoyed reading your detailed email about your new Datnioides. I should probably add the change of coloration that you described to the list of Signs of Stress and Disease. Click here to read the current list of the Signs of Stress and Disease, then scroll down that page to read about Sign 7, Glancing, which is when the fish rubs on the bottom or on ornaments.

You should immediately give your fish all six steps of the Recommended Treatment. Click here for the details about the Recommended Treatment.

Incidentally, you mentioned having driftwood in your aquarium. Did you get it in a fish store? Was it specifically labeled for use in aquariums? Usually driftwood is OK in aquariums, but quite often we get emails from people, who have had problems in their aquarium, after they added driftwood. Click here for more information about being sure not to contaminate your aquarium with something like driftwood.

Click here for more information Datnioides. Thank you for your complimentary comments about this web site.

 
 

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... I kinda dissagree with the comment about datnoids being all together peacful. I have two about nine inches long we bought them when they were about 3 inches and had them for about a year.
 
They will hit at our silver tip sharks which are a foot a piece. And they also will puff up and chase our monos which are about 6 inches we have four our two archers which are six inches and an eight inch madagascan bleekeri a cichlid which can go fresh or brack. The bleekeri is aggressive but not to the point there are ripped fins or anything. It's a female she used to chase the tigers from her territory but now they fight back and sometimes even start the conflict we have a 300 gallon Aquarium.
 
There is a 14 inch leopard sailfin catfish, a 7 inch bull's eye cat, and an albino pleco all acclimated to brack and doing great. They never get harrassed but I just wanted you to know my friend has two dats in a 265 gallon and they arre five yaers old and 18 inches long they are very territorial and chase his oscars and his arrowana from time to time so I wouldn't say that they always will leave alone fishes too large to be swallowed. thanks sincerely'
 
Greg A.
 
 
 
Reply. Hello Greg. Thank you for your first hand observations about your Datnioides. Our experience is with Dats up to about 6" long and maybe a couple that were 8".

Your Dats are bigger, and you keep them with lots of interesting and unusual fish, so your observations are important to anyone, who is thinking about owning a Dat, and anyone, who is thinking about owning a Dat, should be prepared for unexpected behavior, as there Dats get really big.

Thanks again for your interesting comments.

 
 

Customer Comments

 
ptsize="10" I was just reading your info on the datnioides I mostly breed sell and show  Cichlids  I am now 15 years old and have 40+ tanks in my fishroom anywhere from 2 1/2  to 125-gallons and am currently a member of the great lakes cichlid society.
 
anyway getting back to the datnioides my dad has had two colines when I was younger both times the fish reaching 14 to 15 inches the first in a 90 gallon and the secound in a 125 I was looking for an interesting show fish for the ACA and want to know all i can about the datnioides because I dont even think they are cichlids so any info would be appreciated or any links other then what you have on this sight. 
 
Thanks
scott
  
 
 
Reply. Hello Scott. Thank you for your question. Well you're right Datnioides are not Cichlids, though many people say they think Dats look and act like Cichlids.

Both Dats and Cichlids are in the order Perciformes
, which means perch like. Cichlids are in the family Cichlidae, and Dats are in the family Coiidae. So Dats and Cichlids are in different families in the same order.

The ACA is an abbreviation for the American Cichlid Association, and I wonder if they would accept Datnioides in their shows. Probably not.

If you want an interesting show fish, I suggest you look at the fish you have and do your best to keep them in top condition and coloration. In my experience any species can make a wonderful show fish, when given exceptionally good care.

Experienced judges at fish shows judge each fish fairly and are rarely influenced by the species.

Congratulations on having 40 aquariums and a dad, who probably knows a lot about pet fish.
 
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